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Events / Re: So who's going to Dixons Gun Makers Fair
« Last post by doc nock on July 21, 2018, 07:46:42 PM »
Sounds delightful.

Last I Rode the train there was a big shindig at some Fair Grounds near the one station stop... Town grew and changed... Sorry I'm so far away now...
Events / Re: So who's going to Dixons Gun Makers Fair
« Last post by Keith Zimmerman on July 21, 2018, 07:11:19 PM »
I will be there Saturday doing some shopping.  And to talk to Bill Slusser about the 2 guns I have on order due up soon.
Firearms / Re: I bought this old gun
« Last post by Keith Zimmerman on July 21, 2018, 07:04:02 PM »
That's pretty cool.  What are the specs of it?
Trading Teepee / Pendleton (Ranier Park) wool blanket
« Last post by Fyrstyk on July 21, 2018, 03:12:00 PM »
Brand new, still in package, Pendleton Wool blanket, National Parks edition, Ranier Park.  Full size 80 X 90, red with black, yellow and green end stripes.  This blanket goes for over $220.00 in most catalogs, I am asking $175 + Shipping, but will entertain reasonable offers.
Events / Re: So who's going to Dixons Gun Makers Fair
« Last post by doc nock on July 21, 2018, 08:06:47 AM »
Were I still in Lancaster County, I would but from here, it'd be a bit of a hoof... hope you had a good trip! 

Used to go up there to ride their old steam engine line
Events / So who's going to Dixons Gun Makers Fair
« Last post by bldtrailer on July 20, 2018, 10:15:15 PM »
I'm going on Friday anyone else making the Trip (Kempton Pa just off of 78)
Crafting / Re: a "shoed" ramrod
« Last post by bldtrailer on July 20, 2018, 12:39:53 PM »
what stains have you used on rods (I have to make a new 1 or 2...3...4 …. :-[)
Ammunition / Re: Ever Brake a ram rod :(
« Last post by goingoldskool on July 19, 2018, 06:45:20 PM »
I didn't think that pic posted.....  my off hand groups at 50-60 yards. Low group was 60 gr and the upper group was 80gr. Old eynsford powder. I still need to try the swiss.... Seeing how it's "hotter" I might start at 75 gr.
Ammunition / Re: Ever Brake a ram rod :(
« Last post by goingoldskool on July 19, 2018, 06:41:40 PM »
Simple reply....yep. busted one last year about this time..... got mad at myself, went inside and got my range rod and went back to shooting.
Ammunition / Re: who has Load info on swiss
« Last post by doc nock on July 18, 2018, 09:56:59 PM »
Found the load info in an old black powder forum 3f goex and 2f swiss were nearly the same  fps with swiss being 20-50 fps faster for the same by vol  load  but a heck of a lot cleaner/less fouling.

don't believe everything you read on the internet.  8)

there can be Considerable differences within different black powder lots, more so than with different lots of smokeless.

really, none of this matters all that much.  yer own testing with yer own loads will tell you heaps.

one sometimes overlooked item is how the charge and patched ball are loaded.  after pouring down the volume measured charge, thumping the fore stock near the lock will compact the black powder granules.  this is very similar to why we drop tube black powder into bpcr cartridges.  after pushing down the patched ball, bouncing the rod will insure that there is no air space 'tween patched ball and compacted powder, and that the powder is somewhat compressed.  this is a sure way to create consistent loads, because when the patched ball is well seated, the rod will "trampoline" upwards, indicating the load is homed. 

as the shooting goes on, and if your load is good enuf not to require fouling control between loads, powder residue accumulates inside the barrel, most notably near the muzzle and near the breech plug end (the chamber).  pushing a patched ball down such a fouled barrel can sometimes give a false impression that the load is seated, particularly if you haven't marked the ramrod.  bouncing the rod insures the powder is kissing the patch.  rod bouncing with the concave end of the ramrod will not deform a lead ball any more than pushing or tamping it down.

What he said...

Think of it this way...each and every load is a custom hand load....if you handload other ctg caliber guns, what would happen if you seated one with bullet way out and no crimp; another deep seated with heavy crimp and the only thing that was the same was the amount of powder?

That is why ensuring your BP is tamped and ball seated tight on the powder with the same basic compression can mean...more consistency shot to shot...

Or so it makes sense to me to believe... :o
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